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		<title>By: handful</title>
		<link>http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/canola-beta9-is-live/comment-page-1#comment-48331</link>
		<dc:creator>handful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urs:

We&#039;ve tried that. Theres one problem in that approach that we are not able to fix:

Servers are not implemeting correctly the standard, thus making it quite hard to make sure that a folder is a music / video folder. 

Also, to have a dynamic list appearing in the middle of the other media categories doesn&#039;t make too much sense, but this is minor.

But the main problem is really : there&#039;s just trustable way to say &quot;get my music folders&quot; and also.. almost all the serve will create a similar structure like the music folder itself. So the user:

a) will se all the regular canola options plus : Shared media and then ...

c) by album, by genre and etc sent by the server.

So in the end, the problem is to see how this could be solved but its not too easy : /

Marcelo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urs:</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve tried that. Theres one problem in that approach that we are not able to fix:</p>
<p>Servers are not implemeting correctly the standard, thus making it quite hard to make sure that a folder is a music / video folder. </p>
<p>Also, to have a dynamic list appearing in the middle of the other media categories doesn&#8217;t make too much sense, but this is minor.</p>
<p>But the main problem is really : there&#8217;s just trustable way to say &#8220;get my music folders&#8221; and also.. almost all the serve will create a similar structure like the music folder itself. So the user:</p>
<p>a) will se all the regular canola options plus : Shared media and then &#8230;</p>
<p>c) by album, by genre and etc sent by the server.</p>
<p>So in the end, the problem is to see how this could be solved but its not too easy : /</p>
<p>Marcelo</p>
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		<title>By: Urs</title>
		<link>http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/canola-beta9-is-live/comment-page-1#comment-48328</link>
		<dc:creator>Urs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I don&#039;t have a Nokia tablet yet. Do you think it would be possible in the future to show the upnp content from a server (NAS box) in the respective categories instead of the extra &quot;media servers&quot; category? (E.g. music from server shows up in &quot;music&quot; in canola)

Thanks a lot and congratulations on such a great looking program.

Urs

P.S: Does canola2 run on the N770?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a Nokia tablet yet. Do you think it would be possible in the future to show the upnp content from a server (NAS box) in the respective categories instead of the extra &#8220;media servers&#8221; category? (E.g. music from server shows up in &#8220;music&#8221; in canola)</p>
<p>Thanks a lot and congratulations on such a great looking program.</p>
<p>Urs</p>
<p>P.S: Does canola2 run on the N770?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: UPnP service

I found a few links for a few projects developing UPnP media servers for linux, thought I&#039;d share it here:

http://ushare.geexbox.org/ - GeeXboX uShare UPnP A/V Media Server (one nice note about that: Their media server provides  its own web-based control interface, and if you must, a telnet-based control interface. I haven&#039;t used it, but I think it looks quite promising)

http://mediatomb.cc/ - MediaTomb, fully web-based in the interfacing

http://freshmeat.net/projects/gmediaserver/ - FM info on GMediaServer; project homepage link available there. I&#039;ve used GMediaServer, as of now, but I must admit that I was really not impressed with the quality of audio coming through it. I&#039;m not sure what was at fault for that issue, perhaps it was a matter of the wlan interface, but I&#039;d like to think it was the main software component in the thing. (Granted, the audio files I was listening to were encoded with Lame&#039;s Variable bit-rate encoding. My iPod, since its most recent update, has developed significant problems in playing those files back, due to the bit-rate fluctuations inherent in files encoded with that method, such that the iPod can&#039;t handle, with its power-management mux (so I hear) quite interfering with the playback.  Unfortunately about all of my ripped MP3s are encoded with Lame and VBR. Ego, I was hoping the N810 could handle it, we&#039;ll see :)

http://freshmeat.net/projects/ushare/ - UShare, another, I haven&#039;t looked at it yet

on a different note:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/djmount/ - DJMount, it&#039;s reported to allow you to &#039;mount&#039; a UPnP media device so that you can access it, through the linux kernel, as like it was a normal filesystem. Perhaps it could be said to exist along some of the more technically low-level qualities of &quot;interfacing&quot;, that, and I think it&#039;s quite intriguing.

Hope this is, at least, informative </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: UPnP service</p>
<p>I found a few links for a few projects developing UPnP media servers for linux, thought I&#8217;d share it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://ushare.geexbox.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ushare.geexbox.org/</a> &#8211; GeeXboX uShare UPnP A/V Media Server (one nice note about that: Their media server provides  its own web-based control interface, and if you must, a telnet-based control interface. I haven&#8217;t used it, but I think it looks quite promising)</p>
<p><a href="http://mediatomb.cc/" rel="nofollow">http://mediatomb.cc/</a> &#8211; MediaTomb, fully web-based in the interfacing</p>
<p><a href="http://freshmeat.net/projects/gmediaserver/" rel="nofollow">http://freshmeat.net/projects/gmediaserver/</a> &#8211; FM info on GMediaServer; project homepage link available there. I&#8217;ve used GMediaServer, as of now, but I must admit that I was really not impressed with the quality of audio coming through it. I&#8217;m not sure what was at fault for that issue, perhaps it was a matter of the wlan interface, but I&#8217;d like to think it was the main software component in the thing. (Granted, the audio files I was listening to were encoded with Lame&#8217;s Variable bit-rate encoding. My iPod, since its most recent update, has developed significant problems in playing those files back, due to the bit-rate fluctuations inherent in files encoded with that method, such that the iPod can&#8217;t handle, with its power-management mux (so I hear) quite interfering with the playback.  Unfortunately about all of my ripped MP3s are encoded with Lame and VBR. Ego, I was hoping the N810 could handle it, we&#8217;ll see :)</p>
<p><a href="http://freshmeat.net/projects/ushare/" rel="nofollow">http://freshmeat.net/projects/ushare/</a> &#8211; UShare, another, I haven&#8217;t looked at it yet</p>
<p>on a different note:</p>
<p><a href="http://freshmeat.net/projects/djmount/" rel="nofollow">http://freshmeat.net/projects/djmount/</a> &#8211; DJMount, it&#8217;s reported to allow you to &#8216;mount&#8217; a UPnP media device so that you can access it, through the linux kernel, as like it was a normal filesystem. Perhaps it could be said to exist along some of the more technically low-level qualities of &#8220;interfacing&#8221;, that, and I think it&#8217;s quite intriguing.</p>
<p>Hope this is, at least, informative</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome! 

I just picked up an N810 recently. I&#039;m really impressed with some of the apps available for it -- such as Xournal, Notecase, LXDoom, and of course, Canola. I&#039;m working on utilizing the UPNP support, right now -- trying to share the music off my laptop with my N810, when it&#039;s in wlan range, of course ;^)&gt;

I&#039;m looking forward to using Canola on my Linux box, too. The interface, so to speak, it kicks the ever-loving buttsky of that infamous Granny Smith company. Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome! </p>
<p>I just picked up an N810 recently. I&#8217;m really impressed with some of the apps available for it &#8212; such as Xournal, Notecase, LXDoom, and of course, Canola. I&#8217;m working on utilizing the UPNP support, right now &#8212; trying to share the music off my laptop with my N810, when it&#8217;s in wlan range, of course ;^)&gt;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to using Canola on my Linux box, too. The interface, so to speak, it kicks the ever-loving buttsky of that infamous Granny Smith company. Rock on!</p>
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