Comments on: What I belive? Maemo can “transform” products… http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts Rants about Games, Mobility and Interaction design Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:44:11 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: High Earth Orbit » Blog Archive » links for 2007-02-16 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2651 High Earth Orbit » Blog Archive » links for 2007-02-16 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:40:49 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2651 [...] Handful of Nothing » Blog Archive » What I belive? Maemo can “transform” products… We’ve just released Carman, an slick application that turns your maemo device into one Cars lover useful tool. It provides two views, one GTK other using Python (pygame) and let you monitor your car’s sensors through OBD-II. (tags: carputer nokia770 hardware software todo) [...] [...] Handful of Nothing » Blog Archive » What I belive? Maemo can “transform” products… We’ve just released Carman, an slick application that turns your maemo device into one Cars lover useful tool. It provides two views, one GTK other using Python (pygame) and let you monitor your car’s sensors through OBD-II. (tags: carputer nokia770 hardware software todo) [...]

]]> By: Karel Jansens http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2628 Karel Jansens Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:34:24 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2628 My rude comment was aimed at Application Manager [spit!]. However, thanks to ITT forum contributor "RogerS", I finally managed to install Python 2.5. His tip can be found here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4754 with my reply. i tried to make a sort of walk-through for other poor souls in my predicament and posted it here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4739 The trick is that you have to save the installation file locally first, and (apparently) get rid of any existing bora-extras catalogue before clicking on the local installation file. Why Application Manager chooses to honour dependency requests from a local installation file and not from one started from the Net, is beyond me, but I think everyone should agree that it is insanely stupid. My rude comment was aimed at Application Manager [spit!]. However, thanks to ITT forum contributor “RogerS”, I finally managed to install Python 2.5.

His tip can be found here:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4754
with my reply.

i tried to make a sort of walk-through for other poor souls in my predicament and posted it here:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4739

The trick is that you have to save the installation file locally first, and (apparently) get rid of any existing bora-extras catalogue before clicking on the local installation file.

Why Application Manager chooses to honour dependency requests from a local installation file and not from one started from the Net, is beyond me, but I think everyone should agree that it is insanely stupid.

]]> By: handful http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2626 handful Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:01:31 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2626 Hei Karel, In the opensource community, error happens, and we depend on users's feedback to fix it. We don't have a lot of devices to create and recreate all the possible cases, that's why some cases go wrong. I think this kind of "rude" comments is not going to help. It's easy to complain about free things, and even easier to just not use them. But wait =) we are nice guys, if you look here in my blog about canola, when we launched several users couldn't figure out the same thing that is stoping you with python that is the need of other repositories, and even with that We helped every single one, via gtalk, via email and our software is free! not even on paid software you would have a instant help like we did. But wait again : we cannot do it without people asking =) So why don't just send email to the project's guys? Thanks for the correct link =) post fixed Br Hei Karel,

In the opensource community, error happens, and we depend on users’s feedback to fix it. We don’t have a lot of devices to create and recreate all the possible cases, that’s why some cases go wrong.

I think this kind of “rude” comments is not going to help. It’s easy to complain about free things, and even easier to just not use them.

But wait =) we are nice guys, if you look here in my blog about canola, when we launched several users couldn’t figure out the same thing that is stoping you with python that is the need of other repositories, and even with that We helped every single one, via gtalk, via email and our software is free! not even on paid software you would have a instant help like we did.

But wait again : we cannot do it without people asking =)

So why don’t just send email to the project’s guys?

Thanks for the correct link =) post fixed

Br

]]> By: Karel Jansens http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2619 Karel Jansens Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:23:15 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2619 There really isn't much use in advocating Python, if I can't install it on my device. Using either the link in the new application catalog, or the installation script on the page on Maemo Planet (link repeated below), I get the same result from the Application Manager From Hell: "libbluetooth1 (>=2.19) is missing, and I'm not going to help you in any way, Stupid User." (the last part of the message was implied, of course) BTW, your link to Sourceforge is a link to Python 2.4, while Carman needs 2.5. This link http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/ is more correct, but -- as I said -- I can't get Python to install and according to the forums I'm not the only one with this problem. There really isn’t much use in advocating Python, if I can’t install it on my device. Using either the link in the new application catalog, or the installation script on the page on Maemo Planet (link repeated below), I get the same result from the Application Manager From Hell: “libbluetooth1 (>=2.19) is missing, and I’m not going to help you in any way, Stupid User.” (the last part of the message was implied, of course)

BTW, your link to Sourceforge is a link to Python 2.4, while Carman needs 2.5. This link

http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/

is more correct, but — as I said — I can’t get Python to install and according to the forums I’m not the only one with this problem.

]]> By: atmaspheric | endeavors » Carman for Nokia Tablets! http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2617 atmaspheric | endeavors » Carman for Nokia Tablets! Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:54:20 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2617 [...] Carman for Maemo looks amazing [...] [...] Carman for Maemo looks amazing [...]

]]> By: Henri Bergius http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2616 Henri Bergius Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:47:23 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2616 Cool! Now if it only would work with my motorcycle... Cool!

Now if it only would work with my motorcycle…

]]> By: Andrew Turner http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2615 Andrew Turner Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:26:40 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2615 This is very cool stuff. I've been thinking about doing this for awhile. What OBD-II interface are you using to hook into your 770? This is very cool stuff. I’ve been thinking about doing this for awhile.

What OBD-II interface are you using to hook into your 770?

]]> By: Etrunko http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2613 Etrunko Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:01:44 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2613 Actually both User Interfaces are written in python. The difference here is the first one is PyGtk (GTK+/Hildon) and the other one uses PyGame (SDL). Actually both User Interfaces are written in python. The difference here is the first one is PyGtk (GTK+/Hildon) and the other one uses PyGame (SDL).

]]> By: David http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts/comment-page-1#comment-2612 David Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:42:58 +0000 http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/design/user-interface-design/what-i-belive-maemo-can-transformproducts#comment-2612 More info? Where can we get the hardware? Looks really cool. David More info? Where can we get the hardware? Looks really cool.
David

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